Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!rutgers!ucsd!nosc!crash!orbit!pnet51!chucks From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: Give The Amiga Some Credit Already! Message-ID: <5220@orbit.cts.com> Date: 26 Jun 91 08:25:01 GMT Sender: news@orbit.cts.com Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN. Lines: 48 kdarling@hobbes.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling) writes: Heh.. you mean the MM/1. This machine is still vaporware from what i understand, since i know people that have expressed that they would buy it if they could. they have all the docs and are in contact with the company. That 070 is also highly non-standard, so there's no real way to pop in an 030 without crippling the I/O. >Machine "X" - 15Mhz 68070. Multitasking/user. NTSC interlace and overscan. >Hires same as the Amiga; but lores is 256 colors/pixel. A 24-bit palette. >Simple copper. Pixel logic in hardware. Multiple screens and simple windows. >DMA high density floppy port. DMA SCSI port. 1Meg ram -> 9meg using SIMMs. >Also clock, 2 parallel ports, 5 serial ports (cheap MIDI adapter optional), >analog joystick port, and DMAable stereo line-level output AND input ports. >Basic, C, uucp, intermachine networking, and various tools come standard. >In a low-profile 4-drive case with one 3.5" 1.4meg drive included, (you >add inexpensive PC keyboard/mouse of your choice), it's just under $1000. Last price i heard was 1800. have they lowered their estimated cost? > >That sounds pretty "close", assuming it fits your needs. At the best street >prices I could find, a fairly comparable A2000 came to about $3K. > >What's especially relative here about the above machine and its cousins, >is that they were all created _because_ an expanded Amiga cost too much. >The target buyers had all indicated their desire for certain base features, >and no 68K system had fit the price/ports profile, altho Amiga came closest. >Still, they're not perfect either. Who's found anything yet that is? ;-) >But they may prove that a _little_ bit of criticism isn't unwarranted... > regards - kevin Umm.. actually they were created for people who wanted OS/9 on a 68000 (OS/K). they threw in the extras to "show off". there's no real thought out reason for much of it. no Blitters.. etc.. > >PS: you also asked "Who sets these standards?" The answer is: you ask >yourself what you would pick as standard in a brand new model machine. .--------------------------------------------------------------------------. | UUCP: {amdahl!tcnet, crash}!orbit!pnet51!chucks | "I know he's come back | | ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!chucks@nosc.mil | from the dead, but do | | INET: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org | you really think he's | |-------------------------------------------------| moved back in?" | | Amiga programmer at large, employment options | Lou Diamond Philips in | | welcome, inquire within. | "The First Power". | `--------------------------------------------------------------------------'