Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sample.eng.ohio-state.edu!purdue!haven.umd.edu!uvaarpa!vger.nsu.edu!manes From: manes@vger.nsu.edu ((Mark D. Manes), Norfolk State University) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: Free CDTV Message-ID: <1127.28686f29@vger.nsu.edu> Date: 26 Jun 91 14:40:41 GMT References: <14234@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> <1991Jun24.143041.30970@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>,<1991Jun24.233755.1249@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <1991Jun25.132334.29734@news.iastate.edu> Lines: 64 In article <1991Jun25.132334.29734@news.iastate.edu>, taab5@isuvax.iastate.edu (Marc Barrett) writes: > In article <1991Jun24.233755.1249@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG>, xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) writes: >> >>The free CDTV is gravy; the real win is recognition that there >>is a problem with Commodore marketing that formal use of the >>"user sales force" can help solve. > > I, for one, absolutely refuse to do Commodore's work for them. Since I > bought my Amiga back in early 1986, I have personally sold more Amigas than > Commodore's entire marketing department combined. (Well, that's an > exageration, but I have talked a LOT of friends into buying Amigas). I have > already done a lot of work for Commodore, and have never received a dime > for it. Why should I continue to do their work for them? I think Commodore would be grateful if you didn't try to work for them in any shape or form. I really feel sorry for anyone that would decide to hire you. They could not afford to let you speak--even once! You really do prove the phrase that there are some people who should never be sold anything. I hope the NeXT dealer that see's you will be smart enough to say "I am sorry sir...we don't need any more twits with our equipment. Perhaps you should consider a Nintendo?" Sorry Mark... I was exagerating. :-) > > As long as Commodore owns the Amiga and receives the profits for its > sales, it is entirely up to Commodore to do the marketing, and we should > have to do a damn thing for them. If Commodore were to declare themselves > a non-profit company, and give all rights to the Amiga to the Amiga > community, I would agree to Amiga users selling the machine. But as long > as Commodore's managers as earning 7-digit salaries from our work, > Commodore can take their efforts to have us sell their computer for them > to hell with them as far as I am concerned. It is not a question of "have too". It seems to me that Commodore is "damned if they do, and damned if they don't". I don't know how many postings in the past that I have seen that said "Why doesn't Commodore utilize us more?". Commodore decides to try that and what do they get? Flamed by a twit. I also would like to know who makes a 7 digit salary that is in sales? Mark is this yet another exageraation? You know I just get to thinking that you have a few valid points, then you post trash like this. You are now in my kill file. May you live there forever. > >> >>Kent, the man from xanth. >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > / Marc Barrett -MB- | BITNET: XGR39@ISUVAX.BITNET / > / ISU COM S Student | Internet: XGR39@CCVAX.IASTATE.EDU / > ------------------------------------------------------------ > \ The great thing about standards is that / > \ there are so many of them to choose from. / > ------------------------------------------------------- -mark= manes@vger.nsu.edu