Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!cory.Berkeley.EDU!navas From: navas@cory.Berkeley.EDU (David C. Navas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: Commodore Business Machines Message-ID: <14299@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 26 Jun 91 21:05:15 GMT References: <7471@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1991Jun24.003834.4258@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> <7515@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <5508@network.ucsd.edu> Sender: news@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU Reply-To: navas@cory.Berkeley.EDU Lines: 59 In article <5508@network.ucsd.edu> simon@ivem1.uucp (Simon) writes: >Does that mean you're going to help finance them? :^) And not just I will buy their stock if I felt that they'd do something appropriate with the money. Does that count? >1 or 5 Amigas being bought. It's easy to say "they need to find the >money" but it's a little harder to get it, especially with the tight >budget times we're in right now. CBM is just like you and me, they If they were "just like you or me" they'd have the house double mortgaged, the Visa card overcharged, and would have the IRS chasing them. Now I have heard (a long time ago) that the IRS was looking askance at the "Bahama" base that Cmdre uses, but I'm not sure where the double mortgage metaphor can be applied. >have a limited budget and funding. They can't just go and pump money >they don't have into R&D or into customer support or other limited A fair number of parents seem to find money to send their kids to college -- I doubt many would have previously said that they had a spare 10 or 20 thousand dollars lying around.... >It takes time, maybe years, but if one or two people start bailing >out because of their short term goals or lack of, then CBM is sure >to crumble. Marc needs to see that, as goes for the other people >who feel that CBM isn't doing their best. Wait a while and see. I have waited. I am posting what I see. A small company known as Amiga has done what a company with a hundred times the resouces has failed to do in seven. I see little reason to praise Cmdre -- they have started a number of very good programs. Historically, however, the people who start such projects eventually leave or get fired. I don't congratulate postal carriers for failing to suffocate themselves with their letter bags, I fail to see why I should do any different for any other group of people. EVEN groups which have had such suicidal tendencies in the past. Perhaps that shows a cynical, Darwinistic attitude, but I do like the quote "...I wish they'd go the whole way and emasculate themselves." >Who knows, CBM may end up beating Mac in sales, just as did the C64. >CBM is a "home computer company" while the others are "big business" >companies. With that kind of a label, it's gonna take CBM a while >to become established as something more than just the average user's >computer company. I WISH they were the average user's computer company. Indeed, they have a perfect consumer "computer" in the CDTV. It's an appliance -- wonderful! Now MARKET it! If I may be so bold as to quote a better writer than I (not hard :> ) "...it's frustrating to have the ability to solve your problems right there, in your hand, and you can't make the fist." David Navas navas@cory.berkeley.edu 2.0 :: "You can't have your cake and eat it too." Also try c186br@holden, c260-ay@ara and c184-ap@torus