Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!touch!mikeh From: mikeh@touch.touch.com (Mike Haas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: De-macification of the Amiga (Re: The Amiga's Future) Message-ID: <247@touch.touch.com> Date: 28 Jun 91 02:12:19 GMT References: <85@ryptyde.UUCP> <1991Jun22.045446.2732@Sugar.NeoSoft.com> <102@ryptyde.UUCP> Organization: Touch Communications Lines: 41 In article <102@ryptyde.UUCP> dant@ryptyde.UUCP (Daniel Tracy) writes: >talking about interchange formats, documents. The interchange format docs >on the Macintosh don't NEED a resource fork and couldn't care less if they >had one! Our bitmap, drawing, text, formatted text, movie, sound, etc. >don't need resources, although they can be transfered into one (some of >them). You can just as easily use them on other machines. So what is >the interchange advantage of the Amiga? Wrong. Almost all mac software incessantly uses resources. Formatting for text (fonts, bitmaps, etc) are in FONT resources, graphic bitmaps in PICT resources, programs in CODE resources, on and on and on. You only get to save something without resources if the specific application allows you to save in special formats. Usually, you are then rendered incompatible with other mac stuff. So, mac files CAN SOMETIMES be used on other platforms and RTF-formatted WP documents are a good example of this. But in the standard dual-fork format, you play hell getting these sent to another platform for use. there are currently 3 standards in use for "serializing" the dual-forks Macbinary, Macbinary II, and Applesingle (apple's 'offishul' standard). My company, which provides x.400 mail service to the OSI community is experiencing problems with the existance of multiple "standards". Even if we support all 3 (whew!...the work!), we can't know what format a particular recipient's software will support! Believe me, the dual-fork mac format causes MANY MANY interoperability problems. Most revolve around the fact that the 2 forks have to be combined into one entity to transmit over a given medium. This is fine as long as things stay proprietary (like appletalk), but the very second you mention "interoperability" or "open systems" you're hosed! Since PC, UNIX, AMIGA etc. files are already just single entities, this is not a problem. Just ship it to the other machine. The foriegn software just has to interpret the data that's there...it doesn't have to figure out how to "decode" it.