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From: bryan@pi.eai.iastate.edu (Bryan Manske)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Mac SE or Mac II, IIx, IIcx, LC, SI
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In article <1991Jun27.155212.11467@neon.Stanford.EDU> philip@pescadero.stanford.edu writes:
>In article <25495@frame.UUCP>, jmp@jaco.Frame.COM (Jeff Papineau) writes:
>|> I need a second Mac, and will consider paying a reasonable price for
>|> any of the following Macs:
>|> 
>|> SE	No SE30's please, that machine is a dog (slow SCSI).
>? This is the first time I've heard this - rather the opposite (if
>you are upgrading an SE, the SE/30 upgrade is better than most
>accelerators because SCSI is faster). I used to own an SE/30, and
>I wouldn't take an SE instead unless money was really tight. It
>certainly seemed at least as fast as an equivalent IIx/IIcx,
>if not faster because it didn't have to talk NuBus to draw the
>screen.
>
>Can you substantiate this claim? (Just interested.)
>-- 
>Philip Machanick
>philip@pescadero.stanford.edu


I'm also interested in substantiating(sp?!?) this claim.
I've worked with, and serviced Mac's for over 5 years.
The IIcx is my personal favourite for some obscure reasons, but
the SE/30 is close behind. (It makes a great luggable unix box.)
The SE/30 IIcx and IIx all contain the same ROM's, I believe.

I'd like to see an Apple Rep comment on this one.


P.S. - I've also seen with "mine own eyes" an SE/30 out-perform a
       IIci.  Strange, but true.  Memory management bug in the 'ci'
       ROM's, says a friend.  I'll buy that, considering the source.

P.P.S. - What you WON'T find me buying are the three newest machines.
         (Even a fancy chrome finish can't hide the guts inside.)

P.P.P.S       (Thou shalt not abandon the coprocessor.
               Thou shalt not abandon the coprocessor.
               Thou shalt not abandon the coprocessor.
               .
               .
               .
               Ad Nausium.)

-- 
Bryan Manske  (515) 296-9908        . ...You cross a lawyer with the 
Engineering Animation, Inc.         . Godfather,baby, he'll make you an 
bryan@pi.eai.iastate.edu            . offer you can't understand...
#include <caveat_opinion.h>         .                              Don Hendley
#include <standard_disclaimer.h>    .                       Gimme What You Got