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From: jlodman@beowulf.ucsd.edu (Michael Lodman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
Subject: Re: shadow passwd in Tower 500 OS 1.01.02
Message-ID: <21049@sdcc6.ucsd.edu>
Date: 28 Jun 91 18:27:40 GMT
References: <2004@ahds.ahold.nl> <1991Jun27.173338.6948@unislc.uucp>
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In article <1991Jun27.173338.6948@unislc.uucp> craig@unislc.uucp (Craig Ozancin) writes:
>From article <2004@ahds.ahold.nl>, by dick@ahds.ahold.nl (Dick Heijne CCS/TS):
>> Both sa and va are NCR products.
>
>WRONG!  sa menus are added by Unisys on their version of the NCR release.

Then why did every NCR Tower I ever managed while at NCR have the SA
menus before the release of VA? Get a clue, Craig.

I do agree with comments regarding SA/VA. SA was straightforward, seemed
to have a nice tree structure, and about the only negative thing I
could say about was that it just loved every opportunity to retension
a streaming tape. I ended up going in and disabling a lot of the
retensioning just so tape operations would finish in finite time.

VA, while sort of pretty, always messed up my terminal, a bunch of the
fumctions led to non-existant executables (mostly related to TCP/IP
setup), and there were things I wanted to do in VA that didn't seem to
exist.

On the subject of the sysadmin menus from AT&T, unless they've been
enhanced a lot from what they were in V.3.2, they are way underpowered,
at least that's true of what ISC ships. Hopefully NCR has enhanced
the functionality to step the admin through a lot of the messy
hardware configuration and maint. type jobs.

-- 
Michael Lodman	Department of Computer Science Engineering
	University of California, San Diego
jlodman@cs.ucsd.edu			(619) 672-1673