Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!linac!mp.cs.niu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet From: windemut@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu (Andreas Windemuth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: NeXT as a vanilla UNIX box (...and major disappointment (long)) Message-ID: <1991Jun27.030530.7056@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 27 Jun 91 03:05:30 GMT References: <1991Jun23.001024.171@orbus.uucp> Sender: usenet@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (News) Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 69 In article <1991Jun23.001024.171@orbus.uucp> gn@orbus writes: > > The NeXT Rathe bought is now relegated to my home machine, and I've come to > the conclusion this is for the best (for Rathe not NeXT, our client is the > largest RR in the world, and NeXT could of sold alot machines into this > market.) I believe this for several reasons: > I believe that you were just very unlucky in what happened to you My experiences (with 4 old cubes, 4 NeXTstations and one Color station in different configurations) are quite different. In particular (some points deleted): > Documentation: > > The Documentation for the NeXT is at best sparse, incomplete, and in several > case just plain wrong. They do not include printed Unix documentation. The That may be right. However, even if I had perfect printed documentation, I would hardly use it. I am completely spoiled by Librarian. And the on-line documentation in 2.1extended seems at least reasonably complete. > > Unix: > > Security is weak. The worst, I feel is, dump/restore doesn't work, and > I feel security is as good or better than on any other Unix machine. Dump/restore have been working flawlessly for me. I use them often to make backups on Optical and a remote sgi's exabyte tape. The only problems I had where with the sgi. > Hardware: > > Since receiving my NeXT I have had problems with: > > The Printer (flaky). I found it very dependable and an order of magnitude better than Laserwriters. However, there seems to be a problem with the lpd and/or npd daemons, which have to be restarted sometimes. > The Disk Drive (replaced). No problems on any of 8 drives. > and next week Motorola is coming out to replace the processor board (Panicking > at least a couple times a week). This happened to us too, with 2.0. Since 2.1, no more. Seems to be software after all. > Even the 2.8 meg floppy disk shipped with the NeXT has gone bad. None of ours has done that. Just to give a more balanced picture ... -- Andreas Windemuth +-------------------------------------------------------------------- |Theoretical Biophysics windemut@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu |University of Illinois Tel: (217)-244-1612 |3121 Beckman Institute Fax: (217)-244-8371 |405 N Mathews, Urbana, IL61801 NeXTmail Ok +--------------------------------------------------------------------