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From: youki@neptune.ics.osaka-u.ac.jp (Youki Kadobayashi)
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Subject: Re: Nemacs and NeXT -- Insane pricing of 2.1J OS
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In article <1991Jun25.142851.24895@m.cs.uiuc.edu> yonezawa@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Noritake Yonezawa) writes:

> If that pricing is true, NeXT and Canon will lose lots of potential
> customers.

Agreed. Canon will be again beaten by `parallel importers' :-)

> No Japanese Emacs? No Japanese TeX? Only Japanese
> front-end?  Who will pay $2,500 for such an incomplete Japanese OS?

Canon will release Nemacs and JTeX which runs on 2.1J.
Of course they will be freely redistributable.

These applications / building blocks are Kanji-capable:

	Workspace Manager
	Interface Builder
	Edit
	Draw
	NeXT mail
	Terminal (frequently dumps core..)
	Digital Librarian
	Preferences
	Fax Reader
	Preview
	Print Manager
	BuildDisk (file system is incompatible)
	Installer
	Application Kit  (Text Class, Font Class, Pasteboard Server)
	Window Server

The incompatibility of file system is serious problem if you have both
SR 2.1 and SR 2.1J and they are net-less; you can't mount 2.1J's OD on
2.1.

Some of conventional UNIX commands are also Kanji-aware:

youki@genesis(2)$ ls /usr/nje/bin
awk*    diff*   egrep*  fgrep*  jconv*  more*   rev*    tip*    write*
cat*    diff3*  ex*     find*   lex*    od*     sed*    vi*     yacc*
csh*    ed*     expand* fold*   ls*     page*   sort*   view*
date*   edit*   expr*   grep*   macho*  pr*     talk*   wc*

Though their sales policy is INSANE, their Japanese OS is very fine, I
think. I can't understand why people at Canon ported "brain-damaged" X
window system to NeXT.

--
Youki Kadobayashi
Information Network Architecture Lab.
Dept. of Info. and Comp. Sci, Osaka University, Japan