Xref: utzoo comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d:15611 comp.windows.ms:14242 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!humu!pegasus!pinhead!todd From: todd@pinhead.pegasus.com (Todd Ogasawara) Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d,comp.windows.ms,comp.windows.ps.programmer Subject: time for a comp.binaries.ibm.pc.windows??? Keywords: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.windows? comp.binaries.ibm.pc.windows.vbasic Message-ID: <1991Jun28.224447.1228@pinhead.pegasus.com> Date: 28 Jun 91 22:44:47 GMT Organization: Hawaii Medical Service Association Lines: 34 Has there ever been any discussion about creating a comp.binaries.ibm.pc.windows news group? My guess is that with three major new low-cost development platforms out (Borland C++, Turbo Pascal for Windows, and Microsoft Visual BASIC), we are going to see a lot of software for Windows flowing out into the shareware market and public domain. We might even want to have a comp.binaries.ibm.pc.windows.vbasic group. I just got my copy of Visual BASIC and was amazed to see how small the EXE files sizes are (ok, ok, I know you need that 270K VBRUN100.DLL file around too, but you only need one of those for all your Visual BASIC EXE files). You can write some pretty impressive stuff with EXE files sizes of between 5K and 20K. And, please, no religious wars about whether or not Visual BASIC will cause a pletora of cr*ppy software to emerge in the Windows shareware market. I have both Borland C++ and Visual BASIC. Borland C++ gives me power tools. Visual BASIC gives me "play" tools. It makes programming fun again. And those small Visual BASIC EXE files would be easy to send out as uuencoded files. If there is enough interest, I will be glad to put out the Request for Votes for one or both groups and report the results. We, would, of course, still need to find volunteer moderators for the group(s). So, how do you feel about creating comp.binaries.ibm.pc.windows and/or comp.binaries.ibm.pc.windows.vbasic -- Todd Ogasawara ::: Hawaii Medical Service Association Internet ::: todd@pinhead.pegasus.com Telephone ::: (808) 536-9162 ext. 7