Xref: utzoo comp.windows.ms.programmer:3403 alt.religion.computers:2570 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utcs.toronto.edu!cks Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms.programmer,alt.religion.computers From: cks@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu (Chris Siebenmann) Subject: Re: ap, Windows BASIC Message-ID: <1991Jun29.050848.19545@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> Organization: Ziebmef home away from home References: <91169.084617F0O@psuvm.psu.edu> <4k4q47w164w@mantis.co.uk> <14296@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 29 Jun 91 09:08:48 GMT Lines: 25 truman@zion.berkeley.edu writes: | What ??? Your naive description of X and the concept of multiple window | managers is boorish. | | If X is *worthless* and is a poor example of a window system, please, | let the rest of us in on a *good* one!! Mike Meyer has already mentioned Rob Pike's 8.5, but you should also go read some papers on the (original) Blit. The Blit is (don't use the past tense, there's one sitting in my other office and it works fine) one of the first windowing interfaces to Unix, and it's a great illustration of how to make a small simple Unix-friendly and highly useful windowing interface. And the programming documentation fits comfortably in a file folder (printed single-sided 1-up), which is not something one can say about X. -- ">> And whenever it [a proposed C compiler] encounters some code whose >> behavior is undefined (such as fflush(stdin);) it will draw a >> picture of Snow White (tm) on the screen [...] > Quality of Implementation issues are usually resolved by the free market. Indeed they are. Geoff, when you finish writing that compiler, I want TWO of them." - John Woods cks@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu ...!{utgpu,utzoo,watmath}!utgpu!cks