Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!mintaka!spdcc!tauxersvilli!alphalpha!nazgul From: nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley) Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look Subject: Re: olwm/OpenWindows 2.0 and xterm Message-ID: <1991Jun28.001428.9645@alphalpha.com> Date: 28 Jun 91 00:14:28 GMT References: <9106241055.AA17159@cas.org> <1991Jun25.031601.12328@alphalpha.com> <8313@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Organization: asi Lines: 42 In article <8313@ecs.soton.ac.uk> mrd@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Mark Dobie) writes: >Well I think it does it because you can select whole windows. If you I gather this is the case. I'd recommend that they use some other mechanism, since I don't think most applications are going to care much whether a window is selected. >Anyway, what's wrong with pasting into a window that is only partially >visible? Usually you have set the destination window up already Pasting *where*? That only works if you're only working with xterms. >(editor in the right place, or whatever) to its either at the front or >it doesn't matter. This is hardly ever true. I usually had to pop the window from which I am pasting to the top. Now it covers whatever I was doing before. Since OLWM doesn't give me a nice way of doing automatic window layout (or any other window manager for that matter, what I'd give for my Apollo/DM keydefs under X) I'm almost certain to need to pop it. >Alternatively, there is L5, which is dead useful and something I >missed in other window managerws. I'm not running olwm now. I gather Front moves the window you are pointing at to the top? Kind of like Apollo's Pop key ( current window to top if obscured, otherwise to bottom). >I think that the other benefits of ol[v]wm (pin up menus, drag and >drop) far outweigh any inconvenience caused by this "feature". Drag and drop has nothing to do with olwm. It still continues to work (so to speak) under other window managers. For what it's worth I can't stand the OL implementation. The same mouse button cannot properly do both select and drag. I always end up either reselecting when I wanted to drag, or dragging when I wanted to reselect. Pinups would be nice, although I prefer Mac-style tearoffs. -- Alfalfa Software, Inc. | Poste: The EMail for Unix nazgul@alfalfa.com | Send Anything... Anywhere 617/646-7703 (voice/fax) | info@alfalfa.com I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate everyone else's.