Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!usc!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!olivea!oliveb!bunker!hcap!hnews!381!9.0!Grant.Downey From: Grant.Downey@p0.f9.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Grant Downey) Newsgroups: misc.handicap Subject: Re: jaws and vocalize Message-ID: <16515@handicap.news> Date: 28 Jun 91 14:38:01 GMT Sender: wtm@bunker.isc-br.com Reply-To: Grant.Downey@p0.f9.n381.z1.fidonet.org Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/9.0 - Sky's The Limit BBS, El Paso TX Lines: 68 Approved: wtm@bunker.hcap.fidonet.org Index Number: 16515 [This is from the Blink Talk Conference] Wow! Mary, you asked me one mighty difficult question trying to point out the advantages of Vocal-Eyes and Jaws. These two screen readers are so good!, have so many excellent features!, and are so user friendly! that it is not easy to say which one is better or more advantageous. However I will point out my praises and criticisms of each program and in doing so illustrate their advantages and disadvantages. First of all I think we should look at Vocal-eyes with its companion speech sinthicizer The Soundingboard put together as the Desktop Voice Package. This is a combo that is hard to beat as far as price and features. The soundingboard offers much more than the standard adjustments of rate, pitch, and tone and Vocal-Eyes offers many features unique to it. Feature for feature the Desktop Voice package I believe gives the user the most boom for the buck. Jaws is sold with the Accent speech sinthicizer. Jaws is an outstanding screen reading program with power and flexibility with an extremely well thought out menu system and setup. I'm sorry that they elected to match such a fine screen reader with the Accent. When I started with Jaws 2 one of the biggest improvements made were the additions to the manu system, Extra which has settings particular to the particular sinthicizer you might be using, less verbose menus, a separate Jaws cursor voice, the ability to save configurations frames, environments, voice, and macros, each in a separate configuration file and finally the smoothness with which this version of Jaws seems to run is impressive. Jaws work well with the Soundingboard also except for the Talking Clock function. Here are some of Jaws drawbacks as far as I'm concerned. I find that for a totally blind person setting up frames isn't particularly easy and with jaws is more difficult than most. I can't get Jaws to handle programs that use bar tracking very well. Jaws does not have End of Word delay or Trigger delay which are helpful in communicating with a remote computer. Vocal-Eyes control panel seems somehow cumbersome when compared to Jaws 2 but on the other hand it controls a lot more functions and offers more choices than Jaws I thin it's a draw. I've found that setting up windows is easier with Vocal-Eyes, setting the bar tracker, and checking attributes seems to be to be easier with Vocal-Eyes. Jaws 2 now has a similar response when saving and loading files as Vocal-Eyes making knowing what is happening easier. I may be mistaken but I believe Vocal-Eyes in its review mode only reads from line 1 through line 24 which is quite a disadvantage where as the Jaws Cursor covers all twenty five lines down and eighty columns across. Of course Vocal-Eyes relies on Hot keys and Jaws macros each of which have their place and that to is a draw one system is no better to me than the other. I like the way that Vocal-Eyes handles Wordperfect, the way it's hyperactive monitoring works, the ability of vocal-eyes definable hot keys, the way the character dictionary works, and when used with the Soundingboard's exception dictionary it is really effective Jaws 2 is an extremely fast running program with extremely quick loading of configuration files. A weakness of Vocal-eyes is its slowness relative to the time it takes to get the configuration files loaded and the application program working. With Jaws 2, I'd say that Wordperfect loads in 3 to four seconds where as with Vocal-Eyes it takes almost ten on a 8386 system with 20 megahurt clock. So, where are we? It's pretty even, Mary. What we are comparing are two excellent screen readers each doing things a little differently but both performing splendidly. We are talking about -- Uucp: ..!{decvax,oliveb}!bunker!hcap!hnews!381!9.0!Grant.Downey Internet: Grant.Downey@p0.f9.n381.z1.fidonet.org