Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!pender.ee.upenn.edu!rowe From: rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Mickey Rowe) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: Is ethology scientific? Message-ID: <45394@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: 28 Jun 91 15:35:51 GMT References: <9106272202.AA12658@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu> Sender: news@netnews.upenn.edu Reply-To: rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Mickey Rowe) Organization: University of Pennsylvania Lines: 27 Nntp-Posting-Host: pender.ee.upenn.edu In article <9106272202.AA12658@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu> gheller@YODA.EECS.WSU.EDU (Geoffrey Heller - CS216) writes: >I am curious to know if the methods of ethologists have attained any level >of credibility in recent scientific works pertaining to biology. Note that >I am not referring to anthropomorphism, but ethology. Not having read the book that lead you to ask this, I'm not sure where your question is coming from. There are journals with the word ethology in them, and in fact there is a journal just called ethology. My understanding is that ethology as a word merely means the study of an animal's behavior in it's natural environment (rather than say in a skinner box :) There are quite a number of scientists involved in such studies, and there is even a sub-specialty called neuroethology where people try to understand how the nervous system of an organism is built to allow it to lead its natural life. As for some of the original ethologists, Tinbergen and Lorentz (sp?) are considered very highly (quasi-gods :). Some of their students (e.g. Walter Heilegenberg of electric fish fame--I believe he's one of the editors of the Journal of Comparative Physiology) are *quite* highly respected. > - Geoffrey Heller > gheller@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu Mickey Rowe (rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu)