Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!metro!cluster!rex From: rex@cs.su.oz (Rex Di Bona) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: ECL logic computers ? Message-ID: <2544@cluster.cs.su.oz.au> Date: 26 Jun 91 22:48:41 GMT Article-I.D.: cluster.2544 References: <7183@gara.une.oz.au> Sender: news@cluster.cs.su.oz.au Reply-To: rex@cluster.cs.su.oz (Rex Di Bona) Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia Lines: 29 In article <7183@gara.une.oz.au> rbennet1@gara.une.oz.au (Robert Bennetts) writes: > Hi, > can anybody out there tell me why ECL logic is not used to construct > computers (to my knowledge anyway) It is. Some of the mainframes use it and the MIPS R6000 also uses it. Why dont more people use it? Well, two reasons spring to mind. Even having the CPU running fast you still need fast memory, and ECL ram would cost, boy, would it cost. Also it would require massive power and cooling. The other reason is that CMOS is getting much faster. It was believe that CMOS would run out of steam at (take your pick, 20, 30, 40, or 50MHz) at various times, but it still goes. You can buy a CMOS part from Brooktree (a video DAC) that runs at up to 130Mhz or so, and I have heard of a 200Mhz CMOS processor (DOD, but this might be an urban myth :-) So, the reason you don't see too many ECL machines out there is that they would be a bigger headache to run, and cost MUCH more, and that CMOS machines are catching up anyway! (The new HP snake machines, the MIPS R4000 technology, and the RS6000 for example) Also, when I was last designing chips (ages ago now) the design tools knew much more about CMOS (and NMOS :-) than about ECL, so it was easier to get that chip fabricated. -------- Rex di Bona (rex@cs.su.oz.au) Penguin Lust is NOT immoral