Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!hpcc05!hpdmd48!ahill From: ahill@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Andy Hill) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: ECL logic computers ? Message-ID: <970029@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com> Date: 28 Jun 91 23:16:09 GMT References: <7183@gara.une.oz.au> Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID Lines: 22 > > I use subthreshold CMOS (i.e. Vds < 1.5V) to avoid power dissipation > problems with analog circuits. Does anyone know of subthreshold > CMOS FET digital logic design? I imagine noise would be an immense > problem, but use of fault-tolerant design may enable this to be > a reasonable high-speed design method. Besides, it doesn't require > any special device technology, just special CMOS design. > Haven't heard of any, but I would assume it would be because it would be dog slow. To the best of my knowledge, subthreshold opamps / OTAs are used where you need ridiculously low power consumption and aren't concerned about bandwidth (correct me if I'm wrong - it's been a couple of years since I've designed analog at the chip level). At low speeds, normal CMOS logic uses practically no power. However, the push towards a ~3V (3.3V?) logic standard promises lower power consumption at high speeds (remember, power dissipation in CMOS logic is proportional to C*V^2*f). Unfortunately, the lower Vdd will also make the logic more suceptable to induced noise. We may be looking at the last gasp of single-ended (as opposed to differential) electronic logic. Andy