Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!aero-c!nadel From: jan@oas.olivetti.com (Jan Parcel) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Erotic images on display in the workplace Message-ID: <49675@ricerca.UUCP> Date: 27 Jun 91 19:28:14 GMT References: <1991Jun16.230844.210@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> <49662@ricerca.UUCP> <1991Jun19.112726.215@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> Sender: news@oas.olivetti.com Reply-To: jan@oas.olivetti.com Followup-To: soc.feminism Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA Lines: 36 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Status: R Originator: nadel@aerospace.aero.org In article <1991Jun19.112726.215@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> fme@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes: >In article <49662@ricerca.UUCP>, jan@oas.olivetti.COM (Jan Parcel) writes: > >> Secondly, some workers use erotica as part of an overall harrassment >> pattern (although I have never worked in a place where that is true. >> When I overhear engineers saying "Wow! Sexy" it always turns out to >> be chip specifications they are looking at) > > "Harrassment pattern" ... Hmmm, I'm not sure that the offending > individuals actually *intend* it as such - no hatefullness in > it at all. Ever seen the male peacock do its thing ? Surrounding > ones self with erotica is somewhat akin to a non-specific > invitation to sex, a mating display. Now, if some kind of > hostilities break-out over such displays, the situation may > indeed move towards true, intentional harrassment and > intimidation. A modicum of both courtesy and tolerance on > everyones part can do wonders towards reducing escelation. Notice I said "some." I am referring to some well-publicised cases where women (usually in blue-collar jobs) are sworn at, fondled when their hands are full, given late-night phone calls threatening them with rape, and then up go a number of really raunchy posters. In these cases, the men, if asked or called on it, will claim that there is no intentional harm in the posters, and I don't buy it. Once real harrassment starts, it is time to clean the whole place up. GIF's have never figured in these cases that I know of, possibly because the office environment, unlike the construction environments or heavy factories, have *always* had women present since male secretaries went out of fashion, and the guys are not trying to make *all* women go away. ~~~ jan@orc.olivetti.com or jan@oas.olivetti.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We must worship Universal Consciousness as each of the 5 genders in turn if we wish to be fully open to Yr glory. -- St. Xyphlb of Alpha III