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From: hanif@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Hanif G Khalak)
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Subject: Re: Sufism
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Date: 28 Jun 91 17:31:48 GMT
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In article <1991Jun28.130920.16155@wpi.WPI.EDU> turk@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:
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>  Excuse me......  I didn't take any I.Q. test but my intellicency is not the
>case. I believe he meant what he said. Sufi philosophy believes all things are
>the parts of Allah including living things and human being, they are at least
>the reflection of Allah. They originate from Allah. I also believe this
>philosophy (Metaphysic Dialectic) is the mainstream of Islamic philosophy   
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>(non -fundamentalist of course) which makes biggest difference with
>Christianity which believes God is a Human-Shaped male "thing" who runs around 
>among people and deals with them and throws bombs to cities ( Sodom and    
>Gomora ).

	I am having problems with your use of the terms 'mainstream' and 
'Islamic'.  This concept of 'pantheism' which you've describe is in no way
shape or form a principle of Islam.  There is an explicit dichotomy between
Allah and 'creation'.  No equivocation whatsoever.
	In Islam, also, there is the concept of 'man created in the Image 
of God', but how this can be extrapolated to *anthropomorphizing* ALlah is
dubious.  While we're trying to be rigorous... where exactly does it say
that bombs were dropped on Sodom and Gomorra?

> |  Can Baytan  M.D.   (turk@vaxb.acs.unt.edu)   Bitnet: turk@untvax     |

	Just a comment about the quarrels between the Turkish members on
the net:  S.R.I. has no obligation to subsume conversations about Islam
on every newsgroup this side of eternity, and it's moderated status has no
relation to the problems in soc.culture.turkish.  [moderator, please comment
if I'm wrong!  :)]  In fact, it would seem that an argument about Turkish
culture or politics (modern) would be irrelevant in S.R.I., but a similar
argument about an Islamic issue, Turkiye being what it has been and says it
is (a Muslim country), might have direct relevance to Turkish culture.
	If you want, a newsgroup like 'talk.politics.turkiye' or 
'talk.secular.turkiye' would achieve your wish.  Just submit a 
CFD:newsgroupname  (Call for Discussion) to new.newsgroups.

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