Aalice.229 net.games.rogue utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!ihnss!mhtsa!alice!sjb Sun Dec 13 10:19:20 1981 Who said it could not be done... without a scroll of genocide? I just became a total winner last night for the first time. Not only did I do it without a scroll of genocide (though I would have loved to have one for those darling little hulks), I also did it without taking advantage of the arrow bug. And for those of you who like megascores, i got 1.7 megagold from the sale of a FANTASTIC piece of plate mail, which is the main resaon I got down that far (level 27)!