Aucbarpa.700 net.suicide utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!ARPAVAX:olson Sat Jan 23 18:32:48 1982 options\? interesting argument. the assumption made by the guy who saw the quincy episode was essentially that suicide hurts. it hurts the family of the victim (is the guy who killed himself a victim, or a murderer? hmmm...). it hurts the guy himself. now, i'm not really up on my catholicism, but it seems to me that if an afterlife is guaranteed for the repentant, then suicide doesn't hurt at all. in fact, it's kind of an improvement on the status quo, if heaven is all it's cracked up to be. now then: if suicide doesn't hurt, then you're not insane if you kill yourself. one logical step further: if suicide is a means to get to heaven, and heaven is preferable to life on earth, then you're insane if you DON'T kill yourself. strange what you can do with religious dogma when you don't know what you're talking about, isn't it? mikey (mikey olson, ...!ucbvax!olson, olson@berkeley)