Aduke.1705 net.general utzoo!decvax!duke!mar Fri Jan 29 18:17:40 1982 Comp.Sci.Ed. newsgroup? I am very much interested in a computer science education newsgroup. The title makes no difference to me (net.cse was suggested (watarts.1074)). My particular interest is the answer to: How old must a student be before he can effectively master programming concepts? Eight years old? Fourteen? What criteria can be used to measure this effectiveness? If anyone has any ideas on this, or knows of any relevant literature, please let me know: Mark Rosso, duke!mar