Acsin.250 net.games.rogue utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!csin!cjh@CCA-UNIX Wed Feb 10 11:34:50 1982 leather armor and Rust monsters I was also wondering about this (and I note that the individual who hacked up the program to produce what we call nbrogue (much greater randomness, some of the obvious imbalances in monster values altered) "fixed" this) but have you ever considered what holds leather armor together? From recent SCA articles I note that leather can be hardened with wax (which R's shouldn't like) but the description of assembly suggests that metal is still needed to hold the assemblage together, if only to pin on the straps which hold the front and back together (you can't tie these; leather heavy enough notto be easily cuttable is too thick to knot reasonably).