Azeppo.133 net.games.rogue utzoo!decvax!duke!chico!harpo!zeppo!raj Thu Feb 25 16:35:03 1982 Re: Rust Monster on Level 18 Actually, R's don't appear until level 9. I usually take off my armor just before leaving level 8 and from 9 to 18 I wear armor only when I see a monster other than a R. That can hurt when a Centaur or something takes me by surprise. By the time I get my armor on, he's hit me three times. (Does putting armor on take two turns? It seems that monsters can hit you twice when you wield, Wear, Take, Put, or Remove something.) Rich Johnson, BTL WH, zeppo!raj