Asri-unix.989 net.space utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!C70:sri-unix!FREDERKING@CMU-20C Fri Mar 12 07:50:21 1982 Quasar theories I'm not a regular reader, so excuse me if this has been discussed, but is it possible to account for the red-shifts of quasars by assuming they are extremely massive, so that it is a gravitational red-shift? They would have to be fairly spread out to avoid becoming black holes, but this would account for only seeing red shifts, and would leave the question of distance open (unless you assume such objects only existed in the early universe). --------