Aeiss.280 net.jokes utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!ihnss!mhtsa!harpo!npois!eiss!jtb Sun Mar 28 22:11:25 1982 Re: The 3 Laws of Thermodynamics Yeah, I played poker back in college, too. Those line "you can't win ..." are also part of a song sung by Judy COllins, as I recall. Can anyone supply the details? John Burgess