Acbosgd.2270 net.misc utzoo!decvax!harpo!eagle!mhuxt!cbosg!cbosgd!mark Tue May 4 11:28:32 1982 Re: The times, they are a"changin" Amazing. Most articles I read about "hackers" define them as someone who tweaks programs aimlessly instead of doing something productive, and paint them as freaks who can't deal with people at all except through electronic mail, never sleep, and in general convey the message "you wouldn't want your daughter to marry one". I always thought a hacker was a person who enjoys programming and takes pride in his work. But I haven't read the Rolling Stone article. (I also once heard someone on the west coast claim that a hacker was a person who tries to break into a system.) Mark