Aduke.2106 net.games.rogue utzoo!decvax!harpo!duke!cjp Fri Apr 30 12:41:17 1982 Re: cca.616: Re: rogue 5.2 - a complaint Sometimes, you have no choice about attacking floating eyes: they are often awake inside treasure rooms. I've found that the class 6 armor you start with is not good enough to handle eyes, but a class 3 armor lets you snap out of any transfixion pretty quickly. My question, though, is: what does armor realistically have to *do* with being transfixed?? Charles Poirier (duke!cjp)