Aeagle.288 net.misc utzoo!decvax!harpo!eagle!jerry Tue May 4 12:45:56 1982 Re: The times, they are a"changin" To me "hacker" has always been something of an insult. It is related (at least in my mind) to the phrases "hack writer" and "hack (taxi) driver". Both of which imply speed of production without too much concern for quality. Another connotation of the phrase "hacker" (again to me) is that he/she is usually unconcerned with the theory behind the programs or work other people have done in the area. Jerry Schwarz eagle!jerry