Awatmath.2323 net.misc utzoo!decvax!watmath!jcwinterton Wed May 5 17:01:58 1982 Re: The times, they are a"changin" Here at Waterloo the group takes sufficient pride in the term "hack" to have options on commands that can list out or direct messages to the system hacks. What is happening is that the pejorative term has been taken to our bosom and laundered into an acceptable form. Actually, we do differentiate between "hack" and "hacker". Around here, "hacker" seems to retain some negative semantic index. I am too old to be a hacker. The hours would kill me. Hacks on our systems are sometimes called trolls elsewhere. John Winterton.