Aucbvax.1747 fa.unix-wizards utzoo!duke!decvax!ucbvax!CSVAX.mark@Berkeley Sun Jun 14 21:29:44 1981 Re: idle job killer Your typical idle job is in the shell, with only the tty open. Very rarely they are in an editor - one or two more files. A getty would have the terminal open just like the shell. Then again, I have little experience with such systems, so it may be that even the little things really kill a 34. I don't think the Berkeley 11 kernel can move files out of kernel space, just clists and buffers and text. But of course this helps free up room for files. Mark