From: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!ARPAVAX:UNKNOWN:sf-lovers Newsgroups: fa.sf-lovers Title: SF-LOVERS Digest Vol 6, #60 Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8906 Posted: Fri Oct 22 01:34:46 1982 Received: Sat Oct 23 01:27:47 1982 >From SFL@SRI-CSL Thu Oct 14 06:38:52 1982 SF-LOVERS Digest 14-Oct-82 Volume 6 : Issue 60 Today's Topics: Space Patrol, Piers Anthony, Bladerunner violence & anachronism Raiders "lost scene", Adams & 42, SF book club, SF opera, Spock Luke's father & everything ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue Oct 12 1982 22:19:02 PDT From: Lauren Weinstein Subject: Welcome Back SF-L and a query answered To: lbl-unix!SF-LOVERS at SRI-CSL Greetings! All of us here at the Vortex are pleased to have SF-L back with us. A recent digest asked about a late 50's/early 60's television program that starred a character named "Corey" in a variety of space/time adventures. The only show I know of that fits the bill is the famous "Space Patrol", which did indeed run during that designated period. Most of the shows were more on the "space" theme, but it did cover alot of ground for the time (and on a budget that would have made "Dr. Who" seem well-endowed (so to speak) by comparison.) The "USA Cable Network" currently carries "Space Patrol" as part of their (excellent) "Night Flight" program on Friday and Saturday nights. I believe that "Space Patrol" airs at around 11PM Eastern, with a repeat about 3 hours later. The show even includes the original pitches trying to get kids to send in their quarters for the "monoview" cardboard space helmets ("you can see out but your enemies can't see in...") Priceless. If your local cable doesn't carry USA Network, just aim your home earth terminal at SATCOM IIIR and tune around -- you'll find it. Once again: "Welcome Back SF-LOVERS!" --Lauren-- ------------------------------ Date: 13 Oct 82 01:37:29 EDT (Wed) From: Chris Torek Subject: Non-violent stories? To: sf-lovers at Sri-Csl I suggest anyone interested in sf/fantasy in which the hero attempts to reason out conflicts rather than battle them down read some of the books by Piers Anthony. Both his Xanth trilogy (five books now) and his Double Exposure trilogy (only three books) fit this description. Also of interest may be his Cluster trilogy (five books) and the Orn/Omnivore/Ox trilogy (speaking of which, has anyone EVER seen all three of these together at once? I have a theory that one will be eaten by the other two, at random, if they are all placed together.) though it's been a while since I read these, and I'm not sure they fit the requirements. Anthony's main characters always seem to think with their brains first, when possible. - Chris ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 82 20:39:55 EDT (Tue) From: Paul R McMullin Subject: the violence in Bladerunner To: sf-lovers at Sri-Csl, dunteman.wbst at Parc-Maxc Go see Bladerunner, and decide for yourself. I personally abhor the "violence-for-the-sake-of-blood-and-guts-on-the-screen" mentality, but I didn't find Bladerunner near as objectional as I had been led to believe it would be from the reviews in sf-lovers. All-in-all, I thought that it was pretty good, and the violence WAS handled fairly well in the context of the story. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 82 08:43:13 EDT (Tue) From: Andrew Scott Beals Subject: anachronism in blade runner To: sf-lovers at Sri-Csl Perhaps Deckert has a Smallpox vaccination scar because sometime in his life, some terrorists broke into CDC or WHO labs, stole the virus, demanded money, and then released it to the general population. I, for one could definitely see this happening (for instance, it's believed that the plague remains encysted in london's plague pits, and if someone was insane enough (most terrorists are), he could get into one, and hold his own mini biological war...). ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 82 20:55:16-PST (Tue) From: Stephen Willson To: sf-lovers.uci at UDel-Relay cc: willson.uci at UDel-Relay Subject: The scene they left out of raiders of the lost ark My friend Paul Clatworthy, presently of Wichita KS, sent me the following, which will be of interest to sf-lovers readers, assuming they can stomach yet-another-RotLA story: "as described by Lawrence Kasdan, screenwriter on raiders 'American Film', April 1982, p. 13,28 'In the first draft of Raiders, Indiana Jones is flying from the United States to Nepal. He's on the plane and he goes to sleep. There's a normal complement of passengers--a little old lady, some tourists, some Orientals. While Indy's asleep, the crew and all the passengers get up together, put on parachutes, and tiptoe out of the plane, leaving him there alone. The pilot has locked the cockpit, and the plane is headed for Everest or some other notable mountain. He wakes up, looks around frantically, and pulls out an inflatable life raft. He wraps it around his body while it's still uninflated and jumps out of the plane, pulling the inflation cord, and bounces safely down in the snow. Then he rides down the mountain using the raft as a sled. After we looked at it, we thought maybe that was over the line.' (good thinking, Kaz, 'ol buddy.) ptc" Steve Willson willson.uci@udel-relay -------------------- Date: Wednesday, 13 Oct 1982 11:20-PDT To: sf-lovers at SRI-CSL Subject: The Answer (to L, the U, and E) From: obrien at RAND-UNIX I heard from a usually unimpeachable source (doesn't hold office, can't be impeached) that when asked flat-out, "What's the significance of 42, and where did you come up with it?", that Mr. Adams replied to the effect that the British Medical Association's guidelines on what to do after childbirth specify that the couple should refrain from intercourse for six weeks post-partum. That's 42 days. ------------------------------ Date: Wednesday, 13 October 1982 19:19-PDT From: KDO at SRI-KL To: CS.EMERSON at UTEXAS-20 Cc: sf-lovers at MIT-AI Subject: the Science Fiction Book Club Yes, the SFBC is a good deal, especially if you like hardback books, and are not such a snob that it upsets you for them to say "Science Fiction Book Club edition" on them. The normal deal is 5 books free (or for $1) + about $3 postage and handling (and profit?) and then you are required to buy 4 more within 6 months or a year. Watch out - if you are only getting 4 free you should look for a better offer. I believe it is possible to get a total of 6 free books under an enroll-your-friend deal (member gets 1, friend gets 5). Once you have bought your 4 books and quit, within a few months they will probably send you a special rejoin-offer, involving 5 free books and you only have to buy 1 more. Ken ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 1982 2251-EDT From: HEDRICK at RUTGERS (Mgr DEC-20s/Dir LCSR Comp Facility) Subject: SF opera To: sf-lovers at SRI-CSL Someone has already mentioned Aniara. (I have also forgotten the composer, but I remember a name closer to Karl-Berger Blomdahl.) In addition to that, C. S. Lewis' Perelandra was also turned into an opera. The music was written by Swann (of the British comedy team Flanders and Swann). The only performance I ever heard of was done by Haverford and Bryn Mawr Colleges jointly. It did a fairly good job of reproducing the effect of the novel. However the person who prepared the words made what most people regarded as a few unnecessary changes. None of them caused changes in the plot or character. But Lewis' dialog was perfectly good, and one just wondered what the point was to changing it. I made the official recording of the performance, which is why I happen to know about it. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Oct 1982 23:10:03 EST (Tuesday) From: Mike Meyer Subject: Spock, Luke's father, and everything... To: sf-lovers at sri-csl Cc: mwm at OKC-UNIX Let me see if I have this straight: Spock a.k.a. Zaphod Beeblebrox the IV - last hope of the Jedi - shot J.R. Ewing, who is Luke's father. Does that cover all the [bases]? mike ------------------------------ End of SF-LOVERS Digest ***********************