From: utzoo!decvax!duke!harpo!npoiv!alice!rhm Newsgroups: net.followup Title: Re5: Gregorian Great Circle Article-I.D.: alice.1011 Posted: Sun Oct 24 18:14:21 1982 Received: Mon Oct 25 01:59:30 1982 (sorry about the trashed partial article) I would like to hear/see some evidence that: 1. back in Roman times, the year began on March 1. It certainly did not during the lifetime of Julius or Augustus, and my best information is that the year began in January as far back as 400 B.C. Clearly, by the names of the months, something must have happened in very early times, but the fact seems to be that the Romans of historical times began the year in January, and that this was changed (in various ways) during the Christian era. For example, when England changed to the Gregorian calendar in 1752, they changed at the same time from a year that began on March 25 to one which began on January 1. Even at that time, the year still began in March in most parts of Italy. 2. that Julius and Augustus both stole days from February to make their months longer. I know this is the accepted story, but since February had 29 days before either Julius or Augustus was born, something doesn't add up. I believe the story actually is true with respect to Augustus.