From: utzoo!decvax!minow Newsgroups: net.followup Title: Re: How can they do this Article-I.D.: decvax.315 Posted: Tue Oct 26 18:32:31 1982 Received: Wed Oct 27 09:28:56 1982 References: vax1.231 Kurt Guntheroth suggested that "education is not a right" and the student who doesn't have the money, can't convince a bank to lend him the money, and can't get a scholarship from some organization probably doesn't belong in college. Touched a hot button there, Kurt. But the government should recognize the value -- in tax revenues if nothing else -- to the society as a whole of the availability of an education to everyone who wants one and is willing to work hard enough to stay the course. As is probably evident to frequent readers of this forum, some part of my education was in Sweden. A Master's degree in Linguistics, to be precise. The Swedish Universities are tuition-free (there was a $10/term student union fee and you had to buy books, find a place to live, etc.) What did the Swedish society get in return? Well, there's about $100,000 of my combined salery sitting in the government-run pension fund. While I was going to school and working, I was actively contributing to the country's general welfare -- creating work for brewers and bookstore clerks, if nothing else. I also left Sweden with an appreciation for the problems and concerns of a people which have noticable affected my work and personal life. Does that mean that everyone will just camp out in medical school or what? Nope, the university departments establish quotas and students apply during their last year in the gymnasium (about 18-19 years). Entrance is on the basis of grade-point average only (medical schools generally require 4.0 out of 4.0, and run a lottery for the places). There is also a second path for people who have worked, are at least 25 years old and can convince the entrance board that all concerned will benefit from their admittance. One result is that the medical school graduation classes have been 50% female for the last few years. The Swedish method may well not be appropriate for the USA -- there are no simple solutions to complex problems. My feeling, however, is that the attitude represented by Kurt's note is selfish, short-sighted, and ultimately damaging to the needs of this country and its people. Martin Minow, MA (U. of Ill), fil.kand. (U. of Stockholm) decvax!minow