From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!floyd!vax135!cornell!gil Newsgroups: net.followup Title: Re: re: re: Gregorian Great Circle Article-I.D.: cornell.3651 Posted: Mon Nov 1 11:30:55 1982 Received: Tue Nov 2 03:07:17 1982 References: populi.415 I believe that until recently the year began in March (with spring), so that September was indeed the seventh month, &c. Somewhere I read that the New Year used to be celebrated on March 25th, something Tolkien readers may find significant.