From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!npoiv!npois!houxi!ihps3!ihuxf!atlas1 Newsgroups: net.physics Title: Re: Physical Entropy vers. Informational Entropy Article-I.D.: ihuxf.122 Posted: Tue Oct 12 08:57:48 1982 Received: Sun Oct 17 03:47:46 1982 References: yale-com.27 re: "does storing information in a chip reduce its entropy?" The Second Law of Thermodynamics ("In all physical processes of a system, the entropy of the system must increase, or remain the same") only applies to CLOSED systems. (caveat: I do not believe that the ramifications of relativity have been fully thrashed out - it may be that the universe cannot be considered a closed system in this sense). Thus, asking about the entropy of "a chip" is not subject to the limit imposed by the Second Law, because the system considered is not closed; something else must store the data. This action MUST require the expenditure of energy, the release of heat, etc. This release will increase the entropy of this data-storage agent, and the closed system (chip + agent) will satisfy the Second Law (assuming the agent is self-contained, including power, etc.). Most confusions and paradoxes concerning entropy stem from ignoring some part of a closed system, and only considering the obvious (visible) parts. Tom Roberts ihuxf!atlas1