From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!npoiv!npois!cbosgd!ost Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Title: Re: Star Wars ~spoiler Article-I.D.: cbosgd.2679 Posted: Mon Oct 11 13:26:15 1982 Received: Fri Oct 15 02:17:23 1982 References: inuxd.181 I'm not quite sure of this, but I seem to remember in EMPIRE a conversation between Yoda and OB1 something like, Y: The boy has no patience. How am I expected to train him? O: His father was the same way. The implication seems to be that Luke's father grew out of it, and Luke would too. This exchange would not be very likely if Luke's father became Darth Vader.