From: utzoo!utcsrgv!utcsstat!wagner Newsgroups: net.followup Title: Re: More Historical Material on Universal Service Article-I.D.: utcsstat.387 Posted: Sat Nov 6 12:00:38 1982 Received: Sat Nov 6 13:31:36 1982 References: uofm-cv.138 Charles comment about women in service makes me think of the Israeli army, where women serve. Mostly they fill support positions - my girlfriend of the time was a communications officer (I cant remember if it was telephone or radio) - but if they ask, I think they can now get into front line combat. The remaining assymettry (I am told) is due to the fact that the society as a whole feels that they are still underpopulated, and keeping the women a bit safer is worth the social cost of keeping them out of front line combat. No flames, please, about whether Israel *really* is underpopulated, whether Israel should have the right to a compulsory draft, or whether should exist. My only point was that Israel runs a whole army with almost no exclusion of women from active duty. Incidentally, I think it is a poor reflection on the reactions of some people on the net that I (and many others) have to spend a significant part of each submission delimiting the things we did *not* say. I am not sure where the problem is - perhaps I dont spend enough time writing my submissions and making them unambiguous; perhaps others dont read them carefully enough before responding to things I didnt say. In other broadcast media (radio, TV), the people who do the programming (not computer ~) are trained specially in things that arent relevant here, like voice control to be understandable, but also in chosing words and avoiding regionalisms and ambiguities. Being a broadcast medium of a mass of people, the net does not have this pre-filtering on its content. Is this problem solvable? Mini-courses on net etiquette before one is allowed on sounds so authoritarian and downright stupid, but look at how much more useful and workable the ham frequencies are than the CB ones (and also inaccessable, of course). I dont know the answer; I only barely know how to phrase the question, but I think the various problems we have with misunderstanding-type flames (as opposed to genuine differences of opinion) demonstrate that we have a genuine problem. Enough. Thoughts, anyone? Michael Wagner, UTCS (decvax!utzoo!utcsstat!wagner)