From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!ihnp4!ixn5c!jlgray Newsgroups: net.followup Title: Re: Usenet Etiquette -- Please Read Article-I.D.: ixn5c.516 Posted: Wed Nov 24 11:42:27 1982 Received: Thu Nov 25 08:41:28 1982 After reading the "Emily Post for Usenet" I had two reactions: 1. "Finally!" a set of guidelines to allow new and infrequent users (like myself) to access a wonderful new media without committing atrocities. 2. Formal modes of speech, proper spelling, proper grammar and references? I strongly hope you are not serious. Here we have a new media which is not quite a publication (such as a memo, book or newspaper), not quite a conversation (there is a definite time lag between messages), and not quite a "semi-public forum" as some people would have you believe. It's a media which can be restricted to any one of the three by enforcing a protocol. The one criticism of the paper is that it implied to me that it was socially unacceptable to use the net conversationally except for net.misc ( a play pen for the Arbitrary Chat, and the notorious twin Discussion brothers Frivolous and Rambling), net.jokes (you don't see many jokes with references), and of course the various spin off nets. It's not that I think that these nets aren't properly used, but rather that the paper implies by its writing style that conversational usage is of little or no value. Would you work in an environment where you could not talk or interact with anyone except at a professional level? During your entire work day there would be no idle conversations about your personal lives or what you believe in and certainly no jokes or levity of any kind. Considering for a moment the investment any company makes in your working environment, and of course you. The above environment might result if said company placed the same emphasis on your "productive time" in your office as they do on their computers. My first point is this. There is a basic need in most people to communicate opinions, ideas, misinformation, inquiries and most certainly jokes. I see absolutely no reason why the Usenet shouldn't reflect the same percentage of "unproductive time" as one would find in the average student, technician, engineer or scientist work place. How productive were you today, and how come you are reading this instead of diligently working? My second point is that one really shouldn't interfere in a person's grammatical style, spelling, or overall structure when that person is submitting an entry. True we can't transmit voice inflection or hand and other body movements via the console typewriter but how boring it would be not to try. An enforcement of etiquette or protocol on a person's style could limit a person's creativity. Picture the event of reading something controversial and getting worked up into creating a flaming reply. Do you think that after carefully editing, checking for spelling and grammatical errors that the author would still be incensed? Who would want to submit a flamer without the customary "You Idiot..." or "You haven't the intelligence of a Jelly Baby you...". A person's style is part of his cultural heritage and personally I have enjoyed seeing it surface from time to time. Far more distressing to me is to read a person's apology for a spelling or grammatical error. Gag me with a dictionary. My third and final point is that the Usenet offers a potentially new form of folklore which is dependent upon points one and two. Traditionally the study of folklore, has concentrated on the propagation of stories, rumors, jokes and any other human construct that is passed on by word of mouth. Media like the Usenet have very nearly approximated speech communication in some applications and offers a new realm of study. At least I have found it interesting. Strict protocol on a "forum" oriented net with acceptable modes of speech would certainly put an end to this. My reason for putting this in the net.followup instead of replying to the author by mail was simply that I've read a number of entries which hold the same opinion as the author. Why should they be exempted? Jerry Gray