From: utzoo!utcsrgv!kramer Newsgroups: net.followup Title: Re: Refutiation of the Turing Test Article-I.D.: utcsrgv.725 Posted: Thu Nov 25 11:23:53 1982 Received: Thu Nov 25 15:18:00 1982 References: arizona.1254 Dennet and Hofstadter give good counter arguments to Searle's position in "The Mind's Eye". Dennet also talks about it in the current issue of the AI journal. The point is that it is not the man in the room who understands chinese, but rather the total entity formed by the man and the room and the characters etc.