From: utzoo!decvax!cca!hplabs!hao!menlo70!sytek!zehntel!teklabs!tekcrd!azure!michaelk@sri-unix Newsgroups: net.ham-radio Title: Re: Thoughts on CW Article-I.D.: azure.1502 Posted: Sun Nov 28 20:28:18 1982 Received: Wed Dec 1 06:05:43 1982 Running CW at 0 w.p.m ideally gives you a bandwidth of zero hz (Awful clean, stable xmtr). When you key it, you are modulating it, producing sidebands. If you increase the w.p.m rate, the bandwidth increases. If your transmitter doesn't "waveshape" the keying action then the bandwidth increases much in the way the modulating square wave has a bandwidth wider than it's fundamental. At 20 w.p.m. (assuming suitable "waveshaping") the bandwidth is still under 100 Hz or so. By the way, bandwidth does not determine the information transfer rate, it only limits it. Human voices (like in SSB mode) are not efficient in bandwidth use. In the second I might say "hello", I could send 120 characters with my 1200 baud modem that uses the same (or smaller) bandwidth . It would take some three seconds to send that using CW at 20WPM, but at 1/25 the bandwidth, yielding a net 8 times better use of bandwidth. Further, sending English language by any mode also cuts down the information transfer rate -- English contains much redundancy. An obvious example of this is your *NIX "compact" program. You can make a text file 30% smaller WITHOUT loosing any information content (it can be converted back, can't it?). For more detailed, and exact numerical representations, get hold of a fellow "into" Coherent C.W. -- They operate with VERY narrow bandwidth, such that you can pull out copyable CW when you have a noise to signal ratio (>1). Mike Kersenbrock WB4IOJ Aloha, Or.