From: utzoo!utcsrgv!roderick Newsgroups: net.singles Title: Reply to new questions from B. McLean Article-I.D.: utcsrgv.660 Posted: Thu Nov 4 21:38:14 1982 Received: Thu Nov 4 23:39:26 1982 In reply to your questions: 1. How many females are in Computer Science because of all the males? If you dared even to suggest such a thing around the CS females I graduated with, you'd be ashes now (FLAME ON!!). In truth, they were in CS for CS, not for men. Much to the chagrin of many, one of the more attractive girls in my class gave the distinct impression that she thought there were considerably better types than CS males to chase. I honestly can't think of any women who went right through the program to "catch a man". I had a group of about 15 friends and acquaintances (about half female) who were, by and large, very professional. 2. How many females are in Computer Science for the money? As many females as males, proportionally. Is this really a question? 3. How many females are in Computer Science in spite of the males? Are the males so bad? (Outside of the ones who can be found in the terminal room at any given hour of the day or night, and cackle maniacally over the keyboard when they think they've found a system bug.) What I mean to say is that CS may have a slightly higher proportion of strange types, but now that the sample is beginning to contain a significant number of females too, I notice a the same proportion of females with certain well- known personality quirks. Not to mention that CS doesn't seem to attract hard-drinkin' beer-swillin' Real Men the way Engineering does (I can just hear the flames roaring). 4. How may males are upset over the competition for the few CS females? If you're at a university (I can't tell offhand from your address) my reply is ARE YOU KIDDING?? A university has to be the best place to meet all kinds of intelligent, attractive women. Why limit yourself to just CS females?? If you're not, I don't have loads of experience to go by. However, it would seem to me that it's best to avoid relationships where you *cannot* avoid your friend (i.e. work and home and ... ). Not to mention, it might mess up your productivity for a while which doesn't make boss-type people particularly happy. 5. How many males can't believe the competition for the few CS females but can't find one anyway? Sure the women get lots of attention (even if they don't want it), but don't expect it to be different *anywhere* where there's even a slight imbalance in the numbers of males and females. It's called human nature. I think my comments on question 4 apply here -- why limit yourself? Women can be interesting even if they don't program in C. 6. How many males don't care for any CS females? I think I'm starting to repeat myself. If you don't care for any CS females, it is not CS's fault, it is probably just an anomalous and unlucky conjunction of your tastes and the women within your sphere of perception. Potentiality is everywhere -- actualize it! I realize that the preceeding outburst makes some (possibly unwarranted) assumptions; to whit (1) You can meet/communicate/get along with people outside of CS. (2) You are not interested strictly in women who are in CS. However, if we in the glorious corps of Computer Science wish to cast off the ignoble appearance of social unacceptability, we must strive with all our abilities to become as one with the Beautiful People. () Seriously (here I go again), the question of CS females vs. non-CS females seems a bit contrived and limiting. Wondering why so many people seem concerned over whether or not to sign their names, Rod Glover University of Toronto utcsrgv!roderick