From: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!info-cpm Newsgroups: fa.info-cpm Title: MARC's size Article-I.D.: ucbvax.242 Posted: Mon Dec 6 13:55:52 1982 Received: Tue Dec 7 11:29:22 1982 >From vortex!lauren@Lbl-Unix Mon Dec 6 13:52:15 1982 To: ELIOT@Mit-Mc Cc: INFO-CPM@BRL Via: Lbl-Unix; 6 Dec 82 6:49-EST Via: Brl; 6 Dec 82 6:53-EST Via: Brl-Bmd; 6 Dec 82 7:00-EST Lessee. Currently, the non-overlayable portion of the kernel is around 14.5K bytes. On my system here, which has a monstrous hard disk/floppy disk BIOS, I usually have around 46K free for user programs. I have found this to be large enough for all my work, including compiling and running my UUCP and mailsystem code. Oh yes, I lose another couple of K in my system due to reserved space for the MARC BYE program which supports dialup access to UUCP and the like, so 48K is probably a more realistic figure for my big BIOS when *not* running in dialup mode. The CP/M emulator is around 2K bytes, but it only loads when you need it (when you try to run a program which has the CP/M "tag" bit set [the same bit used as the "sticky" bit under UNIX]). Note that user programs under MARC tend to be smaller than under CP/M, since much terminal and disk I/O code that is duplicated in almost every CP/M program is unnecessary under MARC, since the MARC kernel provides much more advanced facilities in those areas than does CP/M. The kernel is written in 8080 assembler. Investigation showed a trivial size decrease for conversion to Z80 code, and would have locked out the people with fast 8085's, so conversion was not attempted. Utility programs are a mixed bag. Some of them are in assembler and some (particularly the more recent/complex ones) are in BDS C. I can only say that during all the work I do here at vortex, I haven't found the amount of free memory to be a problem. I'm looking into the issues of putting the kernel in a separate bank of memory, but this will clearly not happen until after the basic MARC is out and I have some reason to believe it will be accepted in the marketplace. --Lauren--