From: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!info-cpm
Newsgroups: fa.info-cpm
Title: id A11781; 27-Dec-82 15:45:31-PST (Mon)
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Posted: Mon Dec 27 22:35:36 1982
Received: Wed Dec 29 00:49:37 1982

>From vax135!houxm!mel@Ucb-C70  Mon Dec 27 22:24:22 1982
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Re: downloading, gates, FTP, etc.?
Apparently-To: info-cpm
Via:  Mit-Ai; 27 Dec 82 19:26-EST
Via:  Brl; 27 Dec 82 20:24-EST
Via:  Brl-Bmd; 27 Dec 82 20:11-EST

I just read a note on Usenet fa.info-cpm from POURNE@Mit-Mc asking how to
download from ITS.  Now isn't this ridiculous?  Here is a noted network user,
who has been a customer of MIT-MC for years, a CP/M user to respect, and he
can't get through the maze either.  Isn't it about time to publish on the
various nets just how they are cross-connected, and what is possible in the
way of mail delivery, article submission, and file transfer  --  and, just
how in exquisite detail to do each of these things?  W8abc or whoever keeps
whetting our appetites with little jems he has placed on MIT-MC (complete
with search coordinates that I am sure would be useful in finding same).
They might as well be sent to the backside of the moon!  If these nets are
going to serve their purpose, they have to get a whole lot easier to use.
A great big help in this direction would be for those in the know to take
some time to let those of us who aren't; in on the secrets. (Ellen, are you
listening?  Mark, are you?)  Please don't flame at me with a bunch of
Philadelphia Lawyer stuff.  The nets are cross connected, there are those
of you who use this advantageously (to the good of everybody: DOD, DCA,
Universities, and private companies -- we all paid for these things to aid
in making our industry powerful enough to do what is needed  -- and I
claim that computer networks are one of the areas we need to nurture NOW),
please tell us how.      Mel Haas  ,  houxm!mel