From: utzoo!decvax!cca!hplabs!hao!menlo70!sytek!zehntel!teklabs!tekchips!jackg@sri-unix Newsgroups: net.aviation Title: lost IFR communications Article-I.D.: tekchips.164 Posted: Mon Dec 13 15:24:24 1982 Received: Wed Dec 29 06:17:08 1982 I think that the probability of losing all communications due to some global electrical problem is high enough to be of real concern. I was about to embark on an IFR flight once and was still on the ground when a lot of smoke and electrical insulation smells started coming from under the panel. It was serious enough that there was no alternative but to open the master switch immediately. This situation posed no danger because I just taxied back to the ramp. It could as easily have happened in full IMC. I naturally thought about this situation quite a bit and decided that if it had happened when in solid, about the best bet would be to continue on my current altitude and heading for a while, letting them track me as a primary radar target (it's complete radar environment where I do all of my flying.) and I would probably (?) break out of the clouds after a while. If I did then I would begin flying the triangular lost communications pattern for a while if I couldn't see the ground. Naturally if I could see the ground, I would descend and find some nice place to land. Flying the lost communications pattern would tell ATC all they needed to know--namely that I couldn't talk or navigate and I couldn't get down. I believe their procedure is to send up a 'follow-me' plane in such a case. If I didn't break out then I guess I would fly the pattern for a while and CAREFULLY examine the area of a sectional where I thought I was and begin a cautious descent, hoping that the ceiling didn't extend to the ground, giving myself a pretty good margin for error for terrain avoidance. If I didn't see ground then I would start inventing more desperate schemes because I can't think of much rational to do at this point. However, I think the above procedures would handle most cases if the weather I have flown in has been anywhere near typical. Scary thought, isn't it. Jack Gjovaag Computer Research Labs, Tektronix