From: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!sun!megatest!fortune!dsd!atd!avsdS:avsdT:wcl Newsgroups: net.followup Title: Re: Refutation of the Turing test Article-I.D.: avsdT.209 Posted: Mon Dec 13 17:48:25 1982 Received: Tue Dec 14 06:57:02 1982 References: ihuxv.401 Yes, there is a difference between someone who "knows" Chinese, and someone who can "merely" give the right answers all the time. It is subtle, and possibly not rigourously definable, but it is the same as the difference between someone who's really "all there", and a psychotic who's only faking normalcy. If you talk to someone who's distanced from reality for long enough, you'll know the difference. Most of the AI simulations of intelligence come across like someone who's either bored, but far too polite to let you know, or who's very single-minded and refuses to talk about anything else. Anyone in "real life" who NEVER displayed the ability to talk about anything other than medical diagnosis (or oil drilling, take your pick of the "expert" programs) would be classified as not sane. The relation between sanity and intellignce get's VERY hairy, so I'll bow out at this point... Bill Lindemann fortune!atd!avsdT:wcl