From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!VaughanW@HI-MULTICS Newsgroups: net.physics Title: re: Digital vs. the Audiophile Article-I.D.: sri-unix.4934 Posted: Sat Dec 25 13:20:43 1982 Received: Mon Dec 27 03:29:04 1982 From: VaughanW at HI-MULTICS (Bill Vaughan) Though I can't hear the difference between .01 and .001 percent THD (or I don't think I can), I would be careful about saying people are hallucinating. There are several scenarios I can think of which would explain why one might be able to hear low levels of distortion through a filter having more distortion. 1) Suppose the coloration of the amplifier's distortion differs significantly from that of the speaker? e.g. the amplifier has more odd harmonic distortion at certain frequencies, the speaker has more even harmonic distortion at other frequencies, etc. Odd harmonic distortion is easier to hear than even HD (or so I've read somewhere). This now begins to sound like a classical problem in signal processing, i.e retrieving a weak signal (the distortion of the amplifier) from strong interference (the distortion of the speakers). But that's unlikely, because the amp. and speakers are likely to be used together a lot & you wouldn't be able to tell what coloration came from what box -- unless you were doing an A-B test in an audio showroom (the best way to buy a system anyway). 2) Maybe the reference was to intermodulation distortion rather than THD. I wouldn't be surprised to find that people can hear the difference between .01% and .001% IMD. IMD is particularly annoying - flutter on a turntable or tape machine is an example. 3) Don't forget that you can see colors through colored sunglasses. The brain is a far far better signal processor than any test equipment yet invented. The problem lies in telling just what it is processing and how. 4) We tend to measure the characteristics of audio equipment under steady-state conditions, though what we listen to through the equipment is far from steady-state. (Kind of like looking for a lost coin under a streetlamp on the wrong side of the street.) A box that has very good steady-state specifications may have very poor transient response. Maybe the .001% and .01% figures are both wrong under the actual conditions. ---(1)---