From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!floyd!cmcl2!edler Newsgroups: net.politics Title: Re: redistribution of wealth Article-I.D.: cmcl2.22980 Posted: Mon Dec 6 22:15:47 1982 Received: Tue Dec 7 06:25:40 1982 I am not exactly an expert on economics, but I do know a few things about Marxism. Marx said that the working class is alienated because their surplus value is stolen from them by the capitalists. Their surplus value is (roughly) the difference between the value of the products of their labors and the value of their pay. Note that the surplus value is expropriated for the private benefit of the employer. It seems clear to me that if, on the other hand, the working class itself controlled the state and owned the means of production, they would not be alienated by having part of their surplus value go to the state, because that is for the social good. Furthermore, they would have a good deal to say about the kind of policies used to spend that surplus wealth. There is a big difference between taxation for the public good and profit taking for the wealthy. I don't think people are inherently greedy or selfish. Some would like us all to believe it though. Jan Edler cmcl2!edler (nyu) pyuxll!jse (btl piscataway)