From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!menlo70!sytek!zehntel!tektronix!tekcad!shauns Newsgroups: net.auto,net.politics Title: Re: Crack down on the drunks Article-I.D.: tekcad.306 Posted: Thu Dec 16 22:46:49 1982 Received: Thu Dec 23 04:57:42 1982 Arrgh! Full goose loony flame on! "...driving is a right, not a privilege..." There is nothing in our `human essence' that says we are born to drive cars on public roads. This is one of the reasons that America has so much problem with irresponsible drivers. We have had the resources to provide for the personal auto and roads for so long, and have integrated the auto so much into our lifestyle, that we forget that driving on public roads isn't an integral part of the 'human essence' and therefore not a right.. When government speaks of `privilege', it is saying this: If you wish to drive when drunk, that's your RIGHT-if it doesn't endanger the rights of others-if it isn't on public facilities. Society has determined that public roads are a good thing, and that, as owner, it has the right to require certain criteria be met to ensure good operation of the roads. If you don't meet the requirements, you don't use the facilities. I also seem to detect a bit of utilitarian sentiment in the author's comments involving existing laws on the books covering the effects of drunken driving. Yes, true enough. It does seem that the laws outlawing drunken driving do so on a moralistic basis-"It's bad 'cause it is". But government has the power to PROTECT the rights of others, not just compensate the wronged. Therefore the government can pass laws that are designed to prevent the occurence of a condition that will directly cause personal/property damage. If the law is very severe, it's because the consequences of that condition are very onerous. In the case of drunk driving, American drivers haven't got it through their head that they have to think of others while behind the wheel, so the disincentives have to be strong enough to make them think twice. It would be better to try and change the social factors that promote drunken driving, such as deemphasizing its role as a social lubricant and the implications of `adultness' or `sophistication' in its consumption-but since we are rather loathe to apply common sense and maturity to a problem, the backwards approach of a punitive law will have to suffice. By the way, Scandinavian countries have had for years far stricter drunk driving laws than we are contemplating. It hasn't reduced the level of freeom of expression there, and the roads are much less stressful to travel. There, I feel better now. Shaun Simpkins uucp: {ucbvax,decvax,chico,pur-ee,cbosg,ihnss}!teklabs!tekcad!shauns CSnet: shauns@tek ARPAnet:shauns.tek@rand-relay