From: utzoo!decvax!cca!mann%Diablo@SU-Score@sri-unix Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Title: Two things Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.30 Posted: Thu Dec 9 23:12:00 1982 Received: Sat Dec 11 01:44:34 1982 From: Tim Mann Another book about reality as the perception of the observer is "Wave Without a Shore," by C. J. Cherryh, which I believe was mentioned here some months ago. To retard some of the flamage on another subject. . . . In modern German, "ie" is pronounced like English "ee" (so-called "long E"), while "ei" is pronounced like English "eye" (so-called "long I"). That was the original source of confusion. The name "Leibowitz" is not necessarily German, of course -- it may be Yiddish, or perhaps even Slavic for all I know -- and even if it were, The Blessed Leibowitz and his monks are free to pronounce his name any way they please. My name is German and I very seldom pronouce the vowel sound correctly, since it is hopeless to try to persuade native English speakers to pronounce it right. (And it's not even an umlaut.) --Tim Mann