From: utzoo!decvax!cca!Michael.Young@CMU-CS-A@sri-unix Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Title: Re: How about VMS-style protection? Article-I.D.: sri-unix.4759 Posted: Thu Dec 9 06:22:26 1982 Received: Fri Dec 10 20:36:54 1982 From: Michael Wayne Young Date: 4 December 1982 1943-EST (Saturday) Putting more than one set of group bits in is nice, but how many groups? This suffers from the same sort of loss of generality as 4.2BSD's allowing you to be in N groups (for some fixed N). [Allowing any number of groups (with a data structure similar to clist {like a "chunked array"}) would be nice: still you're limited to the number of groups you can login/newgrp to anyway (because only those things would give you new groups in your list anyhow).] I think perhaps a better solution would be the creation of a "file daemon" at this point. Something like what Tops-10 has. I don't exactly like the Tops-10 approach, but the idea of a file daemon (which could also support neat things like password-protected files, among other goodies) is nice. I've thought long and hard on it, but haven't been able to come up with a reasonable implementation of it for a Unix system though. Anyone else have any good ideas? The new 4.2BSD IPC ought to make a file daemon a little easier to deal with too. Taking hairy protection computations out of the kernel (for special cases only; not simple accesses) may be well worth its while. Michael