From: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!info-terms Newsgroups: fa.info-terms Title: The Tandberg TDV2220: Another view Article-I.D.: ucbvax.179 Posted: Sat Apr 2 06:12:26 1983 Received: Sun Apr 3 01:12:45 1983 >From UCBVAX.@MIT-MC.Sibert@MIT-MULTICS Sat Apr 2 00:26:46 1983 Received: by UCBVAX.ARPA (3.332/3.19) id AA02355; 2 Apr 83 06:10:12 PST (Sat) To: info-terms@MIT-MC I had occasion to use these terminals for two months in Sweden, where they are very popular (my client had bought several hundred). The display is as Harry says: excellent. Of course, it has only 80 columns and 25 lines, which I find inadequate, but it's really excellent for small screen applications. Setup mode: well-documented, but a frill: how often do you change the settings of most of those things? On the other hand, it's just ROM, and it's no more difficult to use than a reference card would be. Most of my complaints refer to the keyboard, which I will concede is a matter of taste. I had a lot of trouble with it, and so did many of my client's employees. This can be illustrated by a response I got when I griped about it: "Yes, the TDV2220 keyboard is unusual, but you'll get used to it in a few weeks, and I find that now, after I've used it for a while, I can type almost as well as I can on a normal terminal". .... But, please, sir, I don't WANT to spend a few weeks just so I can type almost as well as I used to be able to! My model had no rollover. The keyboard touch is very light, reminiscent of TI portable calculators. The keys, when depressed, provide about an eighth inch of travel, and a barely preceptible mechanical feedback, which occurs slightly BEFORE the character is transmitted. The bottoming of the keystroke is not firm. Key placement is odd. The break key is in the far upper left, and is only valid when shifted, and thus is virtually impossible to type one-handed. The escape key is next to the break key, which is highly inconvenient for Emacs use. The rubout key is a little better. There is no tab key; instead, one must use control-I. The backspace key is reasonably convenient, though I found control-H more so. The shift-lock key is adjacant to the A, and very easy to hit. Unlike typewriter keyboards, where shift AND shiftlock must be depressed simultaneously to lock shift, the TDV2220 shiftlock takes effect immediately. It has no mechanical feedback or latching, and its state is indicated by a dim LED in the keycap, which is hidden behind a bright orange lens, making it difficult to see except in near-darkness. The same is true of caps-lock, but it is not so poorly placed. Dropping DTR when the terminal is taken offline (to turn XON/XOFF flow control on or off, for instance) is ridiculous; it makes every modem I can think of hang up. The terminals I used had Swedish character sets, which provide Swedish characters in place of brackets and braces. Unfortunately, I was using an ASCII system, and I found it difficult to reinterpret the display. I understand that this problem doesn't happen with the U.S. models, but I was appalled that Tandberg couldn't provide both the Swedish and ASCII character sets, such that they could at least be switched between. I would much rather have had that than 96 graphics characters. I just don't understand how these people define "ergonomics". The keyboard is flat. The keytops are flat. There is virtually no key "feel", and very short key travel. The keys have round, non-indented tops. They wobble from side to side. I've always believed that things like the IBM Selectric keyboard were considered really excellent for typing, and the TDV2220 is precisely its opposite in many respects. A caveat: there is evidently a lot of model-to-model variation. The several hundred that my client purchased were by no means identical. Some had better (though never N-key) rollover than others. Some had less slow insert/delete than others. Some had different keyboard arrangements, and some had actually perceptible LEDs for shift-lock and caps-lock. It's possible that the U.S. models have fixed some of the other problems. Also, I did run into a lot of other people who really liked them. There's no accounting for taste. Me, I'd rather have an ADM-3A (at a third the price), and when I think of the other, all less expensive, alternatives (VT132, Concept 108, Heath-19, Ann Arbor Ambassador, TVI 950, ADM-32, to name but a few), I can't imagine wanting a Tandberg. -- Olin Sibert